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ynot12
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# Posted: 28 Jan 2008 17:38
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With the advent of the $1000 buy in tables, the blind of $5 and $10 is no longer practical nor is it in line with the usual ratio for poker blinds.
An increase to the current blind will assist in three ways.
Firstly it will stop the $10 raise, which is a complete waste of time. It has become a non-bet which will obviously not push other players off the hand. It just means the blind raises go round and round the table soaking up a lot of time and is frustrating for those waiting.
Secondly, it will stop players from getting a "free flop" with a rubbish hand and fluking the winner for nix. This would make the poker here more realistic.
Thirdly, it may even stop the pre-flop all ins that I hear people groaning about, as the pot would be adequate enough to increase your personal stack without having to go all in every time.
There is often all ten players looking at the flop on this site. With real $$$ poker, players are lucky if they are able to look at 1 in 5 flops, at the most. I would like to suggest a small blind of $50 and a big blind of $100. This will effectively will change poker on this site to a more realistic version of the game
I would be grateful for any feedback from other players.
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staxpaper
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# Posted: 28 Jan 2008 17:45
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Hi all
Well said Ynot,the $50 small and the $100 big blind atleast be put onto the the 2 turbo tables.It kind of defeats the purpose of call them turbo if it $5 and $10 bets.
With the $1000 all in before the flop well thats the player's choice.It's poker if you have the feeling you can win you bet.Bad luck if you loose.I have gone 14 times $1000 all in's in a row and won nothing.I guess it was just 1 of those day's,well almost everyday but it's a gamble.
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CMbigblind168
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# Posted: 28 Jan 2008 18:03
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Hey ynot,
Well said my friend. We need higher stakes tables on here. And i agree, the turbo tables are no good unless u have them be higher stakes.
And my friend, i believe the stat is 1 out of every 12 hands in poker your supose to take to the flop.
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ynot12
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# Posted: 28 Jan 2008 18:13
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one in twelve is it? thanks. that only makes my point stronger. And I'm not advocating bigger stakes, I just want to see the blinds brought into a more realistic line with the current buy-in amount.
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CMbigblind168
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# Posted: 28 Jan 2008 18:18 - Edited by: CMbigblind168
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true, but if he have higher blinds, we might want higher buy-ins, and with higher buy ins comes high stakes (lol i just sounded like Peters uncle from spiderman lol)
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deukie007
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# Posted: 28 Jan 2008 18:37
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i agree with stax, do it on the turbotables.
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gegs12
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# Posted: 28 Jan 2008 19:21
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once again ynot raises an excellent point.
I for one think that the current blinds are totally out of proportion to the buy in amount and would welcome 50/100 blinds. I do believe however, that on this site,we cannot quote percentages and possibilities of winning hands as its hard to believe that the flops on this site are totally random
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Chips3
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# Posted: 28 Jan 2008 19:24
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i also agree with everyone great idea im just waiting to se GM's point of veiw
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LAMBRETTA225
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# Posted: 28 Jan 2008 19:55
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i also agree with everyone great idea
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ynot12
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# Posted: 29 Jan 2008 06:14
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lol...gegs. your comments started off well..I don't know whether I can buy into the "rigged flop" conspiracy though.
c'mon guys...lets have some opinions on this blind value.
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flashlight
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# Posted: 29 Jan 2008 07:42 - Edited by: flashlight
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I agree. Ynot mentioned the preflop all ins which many hate, myself included. Why not limit the number of times a player can refresh in one day, that way they can only try the preflop all in so many times, unless of course they have a reasonable bank balance.
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CMjockney
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# Posted: 29 Jan 2008 08:10
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I like that idea flashlight.
As far as the blinds I think the point ynot makes is a very valid one. Again this is something that could be discussed at a committe meeting.
Any news of when we are going to have one GM ?
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HOWARD77
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# Posted: 29 Jan 2008 15:14
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i agree in principle to higher blinds but maybe it could be worked up in stages through the tables leaving 5/10 on t1 and mabe 15/30 on t2 etc giving new comers a chance to learn and progress
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CMcoolhand75
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# Posted: 29 Jan 2008 18:44
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I agree that the 5/10 Blinds are unfitting. I also personally cant stand the 10 raise as it always seems to be the last player and all they have to do is check. However it is your choice what u bet or raise. It seems the way around this is, when it gets to you, raise significantly more and half the players fold. This makes the trip round and round and round much shorter.
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Bento
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# Posted: 29 Jan 2008 19:41
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I support ynot's ideas on this.
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MattieB
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# Posted: 30 Jan 2008 13:37
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I fully suport the 50/100 blinds idea. I think we should make it happen.
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lacapo
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# Posted: 30 Jan 2008 13:47
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I agree that is $10 blind waste of time, 50 or 100 is good idea ynot12, may be just in turbo room.
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NORTHSTAR
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# Posted: 30 Jan 2008 14:17
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totaly agree ynot
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ynot12
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# Posted: 8 Apr 2008 05:50
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I wanted to revisit the disproportionate blind situation in the hope that EMIL may read this thread and perhaps comment....
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buoyantboy
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# Posted: 8 Apr 2008 07:21
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only just read this thread, agree totally ynot.
(I kinda like howard77's idea above as well.)
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BALDYMAN
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# Posted: 8 Apr 2008 18:31 - Edited by: BALDYMAN
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Dear ynot,
In response to your initial post, I'm sure an increase in the blind bets would be a good idea for most of the reasons you give: I agree that such an increase could reduce those hoping to see a 'free flop' or simply flat raise.
I'm not so sure, however, that setting the blinds at 50/100 would reduce pre-flop all-ins.
Firstly, I don't think those who favour this all-in tactic are betting against players who play in a more considered manner. I think they are probably seeking others who will do likewise in order to have a showdown and see who's the luckiest. And such a player will continue to do so regardless of the blind betting.
Secondly, 50/100 blinds would see a serious reduction in the amount of hands a player could limp through to the flop with. This may have the adverse effect of encouraging more players to 'make their move' earlier and thus also go all-in pre-flop.
Maybe 25/50 would be the happy compromise?
I apologise if these points seem somewhat conservative, but a good deal of new players tend to play that way until they have honed their game and developed their own style.
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ynot12
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# Posted: 8 Apr 2008 18:44
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agreed baldyman....25/50 blinds would also be good.
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Daniella
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# Posted: 8 Apr 2008 20:15 - Edited by: Daniella
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"This may have the adverse effect of encouraging more players to 'make their move' earlier and thus also go all-in pre-flop."
An excellent point and very true...
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I deal 5/10 as well as 75/150 blinds...and the play is very much the same for both tables in real life. The best players..play the entire deck, but most only bother to call with high cards...obviously. That's why the average is every twelve hands played.
The fact that it's 'free chips' is the sole reason that the tables are nothing like real poker. Playing the all in pre-flop way...is just looking for the points and that's fine...but again, it's not how you would go and play poker in a casino. That will not be deterred by bigger blinds.
Because it's just points, people will still raise to the hundreds with bigger blinds to push people out of the current play and people will still call/raise with 2/9 off suit. A 50/100 blind will still get raised once (As Baldy pointed out, an all in move is still very likely)...and that is the same waste of time as a 10 chip raise...I should think.
I'm not sure what raising the blinds will do, except it may get people out of the que more quick as the stacks will get short very fast.
On the turbo tables, however -do make a lot more sense...
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HOWARD77
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# Posted: 25 May 2008 17:13
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after the recent changes to omaha thought id bring this topic back to pg1
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ynot12
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# Posted: 26 May 2008 01:45
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And I still think the blinds are disproportionate to the buyin amount......
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freespirit1000
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# Posted: 26 May 2008 05:40
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YNOT you are a genius
I agree
us kiwis must stick together
No you are right its a good idea
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blade7
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# Posted: 26 May 2008 11:24
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i hate it when ppl raise 10 i dont know y the do but i will leave the site if it carrys on its so slow and boring this aint poker
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MMxx
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# Posted: 26 May 2008 11:49
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The proportion is strange indeed.
I understand Daniella's point that it won't keep away the preflop all-ins, but I do think that 25/50 or 50/100 blinds would stop the overly cheap $38 or $40 costing flops.
I like Howard's idea of increasing blinds on the tables, which will keep table 1 the beginners' table with low stacks and stakes. It would especially be good on the turbo tables of course.
I'm a little surprised that (almost) everyone agreed on ynot's point, but nothing changed. Why?
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CMwonka
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# Posted: 26 May 2008 12:14
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mmmmmmm
i agree with ynot and Daniella, i have read all the comments and i will put a suggestion to Emil, to increase the blinds on the turbo tables to 50 /100hopefully he will agree.
thanks all for your valid input into the forum, and trying to make the site even better.
Willy Wonka
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amnesia72
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# Posted: 28 May 2008 02:39
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I agree i would say make some 25/50 blinds ans some 50/100blinds on the turbos would make it a better and faster game.
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