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tomassi
Member
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# Posted: 28 Nov 2007 13:23
yes SeCTeRBwOii
it sure is.
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gegs12
Member
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# Posted: 28 Nov 2007 14:11
i have just read johnbro's account of what happened to him and have a great deal of sympathy for him. Whilst i respect the work the mods do and the time they devote to "policing" the website, time an time again i see examples of arbitrary bannings and muzzlings when in some cases they do not appear to be justified or indeed covered by any of the rules.
Johnbro makes an interesting and relevant point. I too am of the same age group as johnbro,hold a professional qualification in accountancy along with both an honours degree and subsequent masters. He is completely right to say that he ought to have access to the alleged "offending" transcript because after all, his good character is being brought into doubt. So come on Mods/Emil. Let him see what he is supposed to have said and if indeed he was banned without good reason, tell the rest of the outcome of your enquiries. If indeed he was offensive the actions of the mod in question will be vindicated. If not, then some sort of action should be taken against the same mod.
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tomassi
Member
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# Posted: 28 Nov 2007 14:52
Hi gegs.
Whats did you get your masters in?
Johnbro's complaint is out of my depth. So i am going to leave this one down to emil or gm.
Tom...
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gegs12
Member
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# Posted: 28 Nov 2007 17:26
msc security and risk management
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haig07
Member
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# Posted: 28 Nov 2007 18:44
what about letting haig666 back his ban was for nothing all he did was stick up for marley against 521 as u all know eh grandmaster
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haig07
Member
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# Posted: 28 Nov 2007 18:45
what about haig666 let him back
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GrandeMaster
Member
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# Posted: 29 Nov 2007 14:09
Right, can I say - Depending on moderators discretion, if they feel that a user is being disturbing, althought not breaking any rules; the moderator is entitled too muzzle that user.
Also, three moderators have came upto me and asked whether Johnbro can be IP banned. A moderator, whom shalln't be named; sent me a reason why he should be, and I thought this was necessary. If you thought that Johnbro was a 'good' character, then you are looking at the wrong person. As from what I saw, I was highly disappointed.
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haig07
Member
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# Posted: 29 Nov 2007 16:29
can you not give me an answer on this one GM
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jenjen07
Member
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# Posted: 29 Nov 2007 20:58
Hi, people arnt talking english on the chat bit of the rooms
bloodyhell2 and char and Monaro and nopoet (all on table 1)
i think it is a bit unfair to every one as they could be cheating
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turban
Member
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# Posted: 30 Nov 2007 00:03
why was silly billy banned?
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GrandeMaster
Member
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# Posted: 30 Nov 2007 01:33
Haig07, at this moment in time. No. As me and Emil are currently deciding whether all bans should be lifted. If this happens, we will let you know. Until then, I cannot give you an answer.
And, the answer turban is that: For breaking rule(s)
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haig07
Member
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# Posted: 30 Nov 2007 12:56
thanks gm
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haig07
Member
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# Posted: 2 Dec 2007 12:28
Iis haig667 muzzeled gm if so 4 what thanks
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sparky2k7
Member
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 14:35
why was turban banned :D
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Lion63
Member
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 16:10
Emil you must cut mods off....!!!!
U gave power to persons who have nothing to do with poker and the above situation is the proof of this.
You dont need them. Just update software. We are in 2007 and we dont need inquisitors...!!!! Go and see how players leave tables when a mod makes his appereance...! Its insane.
I know ur intention was to keep this site clean from any strange behaviour but mods behaviour is outrageous!!!!! Cut their benefits off and update software.
Tomassi .... Arcadian was absolutely right to complain for mods arbitrary use of their faculty to ban players off.
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rossi
Member
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 16:31
Lion I totally disagree with you not just because i am a mod but because people do not leave when we make an appearance they leave because they have to or are going to do something else. We have no means of making them leave. Rossi
PS. I have alot to do with poker
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Lion63
Member
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 18:03
Emil u must cut mods off...!!! Update sofware. You dont need them....!
We are in 2007 and dont need inquisitors. You gave power to persons who have nothing to do with poker and fun and the above situation is the proof of this.
Arcadian was absolutely right with the software problems. You have a great site and its really pity see your job get stigmatized by such behaviours.
Wilkie you are the victim of mods behavioural lapsus, my friend. Emil must do something.
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SeCTeRBwOii
Member
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 18:37
After 3 weeks im still muted, for something that never happend lol, When will this be lifted?
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devongummy
Member
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 19:28
if rossi is a mod why is his name displayed on this forum as a member.
if he is a mod his status should be correct on this forum as this could mean that he is indeed cheating with the other players and abusing his MEMBERS status.
if he is a member why should he be able to ban others
this I feel should be updated and his postion made clear to all members
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GrandeMaster
Member
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# Posted: 5 Dec 2007 02:03
Lion63, are you happy for people too be offensive, swearing and not letting you or others play poker? If you're not, you should take back your last comment.
Emil doesn't own the software, nor I, nor cschristie. So he cannot do so. And, all moderators are trusted, honest and helpful users which other moderators thought would make good moderators for the future.
And, all moderators do a brilliant job. By saying what you did, you have offended all the moderators on saying "They can't moderate properly". Ha, you don't know the meaning of the word moderate. I, and I bet Emil are very upset. And rossi, tincat, keywest, Smackdown007, Danduriez are all moderators. Just not displayed on the forum. Only me and cschristie are moderators on the forum.
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Emil
Admin
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# Posted: 5 Dec 2007 03:54 - Edited by: Emil
Lion63, if you can be more specific as to what you think is the problem it would be more helpful.
I am sure the moderators do a good job and do their best. Their job is not so easy always.
However it is always important to discuss whether the moderators are too soft or too hard and whether the rules are good as they are. There is always room for improvement.
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Lion63
Member
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# Posted: 5 Dec 2007 06:00
Emil I'll do explain further what I mean by software update but first we must clear a very serious argument.
GrandMaster do you really know what "moderator" means??
Moderators were invented in web to regulate FORUMS!!!!! NOT GAMES!!!!
"...A forum moderator, often shortened to just mod, is a person granted special powers to enforce the rules of an Internet forum (message board or electronic mailing list). Almost all moderators on all forums can move discussions to different sections of the forum, close discussions, edit the content of individual postings, answer questions (or help people with problems), and stick discussions so they remain visible in their forum section even if no new postings are made to them...."
We must know that moderators are assigned to resolve problematic forum situations because it is difficult or expensive to load automatically special commands which regulate forum members behaviour or even their presence in the forum.
Mr Svensson, in ur site or whosoever is the owner, has been created an ethical problem because each moderator has his own point of view of rules implementation. I know you dont have the luxury by monitoring your mods and this is another serious problem.
Lets go now to software update and if it is possible.... You must know better than me what to do but i can post some suggestions
Software suggestions :
1. Filtering bad wording. For example, when someone types the word "bitch", just to mention a light expression", the result for those who want to filter bad wording could be "$t*@#". Of course when someone types the expression "stick it up ur ace" wording filter would be inefficient but the moderator who is banning the player for such expression, as this happened before, is regulating his intention and not his wording. If your intention is to repress players intention thats another story (not very pleasable, i must say).
2. Sitting out for more than 5 mins. Same command that works on tournament when a player have lost his chips.
3. A player doesnt stand up. Same command that works on tournament when a player have lost his chips.
Mr Svensson i guess this might help your excellent effort to create a nice place for candidate poker players who might want to go for the real money poker websites. :-)
Maybe mods are doing a good job (not everybody) but keeping this way in a few months ur site will be full of kids saying "yes, duddy" "no, duddy".
Thx
Lion63
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Emil
Admin
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# Posted: 5 Dec 2007 08:32
About the "what is a moderator" discussion I haven't followed it. If it's a moderator in a game or a forum shouldn't make much difference, the idea is to make the game or forum more enjoyable to be in.
Well.. I'm thinking of implementing a moderator forum where guidelines can be implemented and discussed among moderators. That way moderators should be able to make similar decisions in similar situations. Haven't had time yet though.
About changing the software it is unfortunately out of my control, except that I can make suggestions for changes. I have been promised that the sitting out problem should be solved soon.
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blackvelvet
Member
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# Posted: 5 Dec 2007 18:52
Luckypocket refusing to stand on table two. Have checked all the other tables and no moderators to be found.
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boroboy
Member
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# Posted: 6 Dec 2007 12:45
why are there no moderators on in the mornings ( british time ) they only seem to appear after 6pm. I understand that they have jobs etc but people break the rules when there`s no mods about then behave when they appear
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NORTHSTAR
Member
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# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 09:27
hi all,
can someone please remove "serpent" from table one his language is disgusting as the whole room will agree he is being very abusive to the whole table we have advised him that this langauge will not be
tolerated but we cant do a thing to stop it!!!!!!
players at the tabele are myself,kerrie,lynnie,tennisplayer,hiew,way44
ask any of these. so please hurry up and do something about this
as usual no mods are around.
thank you
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lynnie
Member
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# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 11:43
Northstar I totally agree with you. I was only on for a short time but as usual you and kerrie make the tables you play at a fun place to be, but then this guy serpent came on and he was disgusting you tried to stop it so for that I thank you but all you got was more verbals. Like you I think it is a shame we cant do anything about it. Look forward to playing at the same table again as u and kerrie.
Lynnie
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cyborge
Member
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# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 17:52
GrandeMaster
lost pw cant use forum
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cyborge
Member
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# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 17:56
goody75: should be banned got warned by a few people started to call names and bad language ! see below
kingF fold
coachjc0 folds
GESTERLOKOE
joesedge folds
Funnell8: goody says you your not even playing and you still chatting crap
lillondon folds
Grimner folds
Graywolfe folds
wanker
Funnell8 folds
* Turn is dealt [Ac]
goody75: tosser
goody75: dick
chinghizkhan bets 200 [to 200]
cyborge: ? was talking to the group not one person ?
Funnell8: haha ...your starting to bore me mate
giannos folds
* River is dealt [6c]
chinghizkhan shows [Jh,Td] Tens and Sixes
GESTERLOKOE shows [Ah,4c] Ace-High Flush
goody75: wel ban me then!!
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morticia22
Member
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# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 21:34
I do have to make a comment. I joined around 4 or 5 months ago, and I believe things have taken a turn for the worst in that time frame. Some of the Moderators, I won't name any names, have severe "power trip" issues. It seems like they try to bust people for things with no good reason. I've seen it happen before. Even some of the things I've read on the forum, posted by Moderators, were out of line. I do agree that there are people that deserve to be banned for using foul language, offending people, etc. But sometimes, you just have to let certain things go. We are all human, and we make mistakes. Instead of banning someone right away, give them another chance. It's only fair. Wouldn't you want to be given a second chance? I realize there are going to be people upset with me for posting this thread, but I'm willing to take the heat. I had to get this off my chest. I used to enjoy playing poker here, but it has become boring and predictable. Number 1, no one under the age of 18 should be able to play, as those are the ones that cause the majority of the problems. Number 2, Moderators need to lay off people a little. And number 3, let people have a good time. This is what this is for, correct?
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