I took this picture on the 31st of January after many months of working hard at the poker tables and tourneys.


This photo was taken on the 4th of February, just 4 days later!!!

Now, this isn't a boast, far from it. I only posted the pics to prove a point.
If you thought people were leaving this site due to increased bingo play before.
Now with the free money tables, there is no risk to going all-in at any stage on any table or tourney.
It makes a mockery of the work people have done building their bank roll by playing well.
Getting a seat on the blackjack tables is probably the hardest part to winning money!
Sorry for the rant.

Boast or not...Well done Roy. (I believe your not)

Swamp (who is still no where near 1 million) lol

Agreed.
See also recent abnormalities in plots of stats for players

GreatestPlayer http://regis.barbanchon.free.fr/tfpr/LEADERBOARD/leaderboard-04.png
Boo2U http://regis.barbanchon.free.fr/tfpr/LEADERBOARD/leaderboard-03.png
Manager1 http://regis.barbanchon.free.fr/tfpr/LEADERBOARD/leaderboard-00.png

http://regis.barbanchon.free.fr/tfpr/stats.html

theres only 1 problem with blackjack, that your chips dont add to your bank until you click leave and sometimes you have a big stack and the table crashes or freezes.

i am enjoying the new blackjack table but i have to say it is going to make a mockery of the leaderboard, with good poker players (thats why i am not on board lol) being pushed down the board by blackjack players.
Please can we have seperate leaderboard for blackjack

Great stats bat.

Yes Roy, you are so right. Can't see whos at tables and cant get in so I will remain poor for now.

A Seperate leader board for Blackjack would work ; ) Just saying :D

bats superb stats give us all the tourney table rankings and im sure diamond mine will soon be available , the leaderboard is surely only a ranking of chips in your bank , it gives information to how "rich" you are regardless of how you have achieved this status or how long it has taken. i would for one say look at the tourney table rankings for a guide to a poker players abilities and the likes of kara and huggs will shine out ,mere mortals like myself have to play twice as many games to achieve a top spot . black jack is here ,its fun , learn it enjoy it, win chippies then play the real game POKER. the more that play the tourney tables the better so go get your chips in black jack and try to emulate kara and huggy on the tourneys . good luck all and remember its free and fun . lmao oh and just very slightly addictive x x

Either way it's all good :D

You obviously did not read last posts in batstats thread :o)

Can't the max bet be changed to about 5k?? That might sort it out

yep it has already ruin it for me, I mean ffs just seems like yesterday roy was celebrating getting to 1 million which should take a while not just in two days ffs, black jack has taken all the fun out of the leaderboard. Also I am tired of hearing oh guess just what I just did I banked 100k, I banked 250k ffs this is worst than bingo. There is more than one problem with black jack you can easyily beat a computer, cmon already play a human and forget about black jack.

to be honest i dont think the leaderboard shows in any reflection a poker players ability on here, in my opinon it just represents the amount on time they have to play here ( honestly no disrepect intended ) for example many times ive played people on the leaderboard and have been very comfortable playing them whilst having my fair share of wins ( tourneys i mean ) unfortunatly i dont have as much time as i used to- to play on the regular tbls. there has also been many occasions while ive been playing where there is a player ive never spoke to or had the priveledge to play with before and been blown away by there poker skills.
so not forgetting that getting on the leaderboard is an achievment, we must remember were playing with play money.



ps these are my views and no disrepect or malice is intended towards anyone :)

yes I know it is play money, but everything comes in steps and black jack case it can give a newbie miles and miles to run and could catch up to a player like ynot or huggermugger possible in a month times.

It will affect the tourney stats as well i think, because now bingo-bangers will have no problem entering goldmine and diamond mine and playing like they do on the turbo tables. They might not care about tourney rankings on bat stats, but the people who do will soon grow tired of being forced into all in calls or folding all the time!
As soon as bingo-man/woman gets knocked out, quick few hands of blackjack and they're ready to try their luck again.
I was very proud to reach 1 million due to playing poker and using my skill.
The subsequent money is almost embarrssing.

Roystone you just hit the nail on his hat, if the bingoplayers play black jack and make a fortune easely they will play bingo on tournements and spoil the games...
Also coming from you I think you showed how it spoils the leaderboard having 1 million 2 days ago and now you already have 2 million , so my respect for bringing this subject on and I agree , their must be a seperate LB for Black jack so it cant ruin the big tournements...
I disagree with superbent and gollum, cause in LB there are some of the best players here and they achieved this with sittting at tournements, not at Bingoplaying.. If I see hugger play, he is almost always in the points, so that must say some about his capicity.....
I also play less then them but if you see the percenteges the big ones win more and I have real hard time getting beyond the 1,3 million stack... I will not play the blackjack cause I want to win my chips with pokertournements, not with Bingoblackjack..Its called the freepokerroom doesnt it?? But thats my personal mview on this..

Ron

ronvisser
i wouldnt go as far to say they are bad players, only with the amount of time people spend on here you would expect people to rise up the ranks. lets not forget as i and many others have said a thousand times although yet to be heard, no matter how hard you try you can not replicate real poker on a free poker site. it cant be done as people have nothing to lose, theres no wife to go home to at the end of the day and tell youve lost this weeks wages on poker (ie no pressure ) and with nothing to lose its not poker its free poker..... two different things. im not trying to devalue this site either, as here you can earn friendship have fun in a friendly enviroment and learn the basic's of poker which makes this place so great.


also you say they've achieved the leadboard playing only tournemants, take manager1 for example he has been inactive for months yet still has over 10 million chips, bear in mind this was when the most expensive tourney was 6k. on this basis ( meaning your example ) does this make him a regular tbl bingo player?

I realy dont know how that was possible too, I am sure that there was spoken on this subject..... But I played to LB players a lot and we dont do as if all are very good real pokerplayers, we play at this site and at this site they are real great players. Of course it will be different on real tournements, but this is a different game and I am speaking about this sites players...And as I sad, lots of players are surprised about Managers chipstck....As you said, he had did when he was in 6 k and GM TT and DM were not here... So its a big mystery...

In particular, the January 2009 mysterious surge of 4M+ from 10M to 14M+
in only 4 weeks with TT as the highest stakes table.

Don't know if it's blackjack, but this week, he jumped from 14M500- to 16M500+

ive stopped playing tables here for a while now, i do play sometimes but i normally stick to league only because im fed up of bingo players in the big tournaments. now with blackjack bingo players are gunna get more chips and enter dm and gm, ruining all the tournies also, i did intially enjoy the black jack table when i discovered it but took 70k off it in about 5 minutes, which shudnt happen on a table, this should remain a poekr site now and blackjack is only feeding the bingo players to ruin other tournaments. so now the chips are going to rise and leaderboard will change dramatically after people who have worked hard for four years on this site having fun getting on to the leaderboard are being overtaken by people from a week. soo this is runing the site and just adds to the reasons why ive left it except for league related things

a hornets nest has been opened , and everyone is buzzing around as they were when dm came ,well lets give it a few weeks and then emil and the mods can input their opinions and lets see how we all feel then ,as for me i like the bj tables and have already met new friends ,give it time and review ,im sure it will settle down ,but in the meantime as i said just get on and play and enjoy . and well done roystone your million at poker is a great achievement wish i was there with you .

an add on if you want to see real graft to earn chips talk to chezza1 until now has only played normal tables no bingo/turbo or tourneys and has amassed over 600k i guess there are a lot like her they are the people you need on this site ,good luck to them .

Hi all, I have to say I agree that blackjack should have its own leader board, no point repeating the reasons its all been said above. Is there any possibility that Emil or one of the Mods could respond to let us know if this is possible, if not then perhaps we will just have to live with it but at least we will know that the leaderboard will be rendered meaningless and it will save me looking at it over my morning cuppa to see my position.

Bat and I did, Bat has 4,8 million and I have got 1,3 million on tournement tables and Bat got gthe most on potlimited tables...So i gues he doesnt like this BJ thing too. Give it a few weeks and the bingo outplayed us playing a year for me to get this 1,3..They will earn it with BJ in weeks or in roystones place 4 days....So its not strange I would like it to see BJ has its own chipstack...

I totaly agree with that ann

One week ago from today and I was at 456k and was having awful luck, now today I am at 1.6 mill. Which all came from Dm. I have won 100k on black jack but after I saw how easy it was I quit playing it. Whats the point in winning so much when you know its not really a challenge. What I am saying is there a since for achievement when you win so much by beating tough challenges with humans not by beating a easy computer.

err... most I got was 4,4 M...
I'm more in th ranges of 4,2-4,3M now...

Thank you bat for raising this red flag. For 2 years I been competing with Manager1 I have noticed that and as a matter of fact I asked him many times on tables 4 &5 how do you manage to jump that fast from 4M to 10M to 14M when I don't see you playing here very much??? his only answer was he laugh it of and told me you need to figure it out. I played him many many times he is very very conservative in his betting and 95% of the times he bank at no more than 30-49K. I honestly think the management of this site needs to examine his account and see when and how those huge jumps took place. It is not fair to players who like to be on the LB in a fair manner. Thanks

@Roystone: thanks for raising this issue.

After the 10k tourney (treasure trap), in my opinion, chips got drastically out of hand. I worked hard for my 5.5M chips, played for hours and hours and hours. I saw it as a big honour getting in a high position on the leaderboard. Just like Manny, I played mostly regular Omaha (non turbo at the time) and some Texas Turbo. I had and still have respect for the tourney players of that time: Howard, jesjames, estrella and Thehype are the most notable.
Since the introduction of Gold Mine and Diamond Mine, the leaderboard is dominated by tourney players.

I don't know what's going on with Blackjack, but Batman makes a good point using his statistics. They seem to create a completely new leaderboard in a very short time. I guess this is not a poker site anymore then...

Call me conservative, but I don't really like these changes. Yes, it does take time to get on the leaderboard, but us old folks have put a lot more time and effort in it than the people complaining about how tough it is to get to the leaderboard now. And yes, you may not have seen a lot of Manny, Master, Ynot, Patrick, pokerstar, coolhand, adam, chroniclover, MP, GP, jackhighjo, Bento, Feather, estrella, Tricky, Witeowl, and Farrel were/are all top class players, who have spent years at these tables. I think they all deserve a little respect for their efforts.



As for best player of this site:
* Manager1 is an allround omaha and holdem player who hated tourneys last time I saw him (in June). Only one player comes close to his level of play.
* Karabuyu, The Challenger. Guarantees great tourney play. Together with Manny, the only one on this site that could play poker for money and be successful.
* Huggermugger, don't know much of him, but great progress and good tourney play.
* Ynot12, the former leader. Wisdom on the forum and good spirit at the tables.
* MasterYnot, the strong and silent type ;)


Summary: pleeeeeaaaaase lower the buy-ins of Diamond Mine and fix Blackjack.

disagree completly on lowing the price of dm, If you win alot on tourneys that no problem with me, but black jack in my opionion is horrible for the site, plain in simple its to easy to win chips.

i do agree with you MM that there is some decent players on this site who worked hard to get were they are befor these big tourneys came along. I made a fair bit playing omaha turbo and some texas think i made over 3million on them befor started tourneys and only reason why i play them now is because the bingo players take then fun away from it all. This black jack is just gonna ruin this great site and i can see alot more of the good players leving if the bingo players start earnin big time from it and spoiling the decent tourneys where you will find all the decent players. It should either be removed from site and stay poker or as some 1 els said earlier make a new leader board but still that wont change a persons chip amount and stop em from ruining this site