This thread is for complaints and suggestions for improvement.

I will try to read this thread regularly, maybe once per week.

Negatively phrased complaints are not allowed in the main forum, except in this thread, but if you have a positively phrased suggestion you can post it in the main forum if you want to - or here if you prefer that.

The reason for this is that I want to keep a positive tone in the main forum.

Off topic....

But hey, thanks Emil, for keeping the adverts off this site -because I know it's basically a penny per click on those banners and 'pop up child windows'. I think we all appreciate that, and maybe this site is even bleeding you money -yet you hang on because you see so many people give so much of their time, passion and love to this site.

For that, it's not a complaint, yet rather....a thank you.

=)

Just had to say it....

- Fixed terms for Mod mandates.
- Renewal of mod team by 1/3.
- Possibility of serve an unlimited number of times but impossibility to serve twice in a row

- Impossibility to cumulate caps leading to conflicts of interests : e.g., mod cap, captain cap, ...

- Replacement of League Commitee by Council of All Captains.

- Impossibility of rulings modifying scores by any other mean than a rematch.

- postpone of harsh / inflammatory rulings (suspensions, ...) off-season.

Hi Bat,

I'm not very involved with the league personally. Maybe it is better to post these complaints/suggestions in the league forum?

No,

all is close knit.

Most of drama come from conflicts of interest and politics,

and these two come from league.

Therefore, how mod caps and league caps interacts/should not interact
is of most importance here...

Thank you Daniella :-) The site is not bleeding but at the moment it's not making that much either. But I think it can be improved.


Ok, I understand that that is the biggest problem in your opinion? Then please give me the details. I don't know anything about how the league works so you'd have to explain the problem in detail for me to understand it.

(the balance of BJ players should have been reset to their value
as it was on 31 January, which is their true poker value, not an artificial $1M)

Ok, I've looked at your stats Bat and I did an approximate reset of chips
http://regis.barbanchon.free.fr/tfpr/LEADERBOARD/blackjack-00.png
http://regis.barbanchon.free.fr/tfpr/LEADERBOARD/blackjack-01.png
The reason that some players were set to 1 M chips was because they continued even after they had been warned, I think.

You have the exact amount in the calendar at week #04, that is, there:

http://regis.barbanchon.free.fr/tfpr/2010/01/diff-24-31

You also have a computation of what I thought
would have been reasonable to subtract for some players here:

http://www.thefreepokerroom.com/forum/4_4493_20.html#msg168091
(results at end of post) though Benso's case if partly a false positive
http://www.thefreepokerroom.com/forum/4_4493_21.html#msg169353

I always figured that was the aim of this site and found it strange that a lot of people seemed to be under the impression you were running this site out of the goodness of your own heart.

What other sites have you got and are they any good? Can I have a go on them?

Karlek BrownTrout.

Ps, Can you send me any mugs or t-shirts please (because it's me)?

hoho, things moved on LB I see...
01 Manager1 15000000
10 MasterYnot 6009000
20 joesedge 4871304
45 GreatestPlayer 3084397

(I do not see flyingfinn yet. Though he requested himself to be reset to $1M
I dont see why he should not be at his true poker value too)

For MasterYnot and joesedge, I dunno if they have been seen on site
since their ban, therefore, it would be a good idea to contact them
privately by e-mail to welcome them back.

MODS can you help me why cannot get on table when it keeps coming up with this?Missing Setting: lobbyButton, as i want to play please help thanks.......l

Why don't you reduce the amount of mods to a few and pay them? This would make them a little more accountable for their actions and make them less likely to make knee-jerk decisions as they'd have something to lose.

I award you the bat-lol of the day.

A few suggestions that may or may not be of value..have made them before in various threads, but this seems to be the place now so here goes.......

MODS
With Bat on the Mods serving fixed terms ... I believe they should serve 6 month fixed terms and not be elected by themselves.. Also that they should be permitted to serve as many terms as they wish but not consecutively... I would also say that there should possibly be two "supermods" who serve a longer term, possibly one year or 18 months before being stood down.. these mods selected by emil... this would enable continuity in the mod system and allow these supermods time to bed in replacements.. The supermods should also be permitted to IP ban all the accounts of persistent troublemakers....
Personally I think they do a great job, but after seeing the upheaval lately I do believe that fixed terms and elected Mods would go a long way to relieving much of the anger and resentment of some things that have happened....
As regards the league with mods/captains/committee I dont really know much about this sytem but it would seem a much easier and more democratic policy to have all team captains on the committee with maybe one MOD to chair that committee.. Any problems with gaining a decision on certain problems/issues could be circumvented by fixed reply time on decisions... again would go some way to alleviating any possible conflicts of interest or allegations of unfair treatment....

Tourney tables
First a personal one.. may or may not be viable/possible, but could we have our own avatars at the tables?
Second... TT used to be my favorite table for the simple reason all started with a 1000 chip stack.. prevented alot of the bingo play because people could bet a decent hand pre flop, continuation bet after flop and not have to dump all their chips to try secure the hand as many do with 800 stack starts on tables now.. wont prevent bingo play but I am certain that TT was so popular for this reason...
Third... GM tourney table.. it has become a ghost table at certain times since the DM table was created.. I love the DM table and it was hard fought for so wouldnt want to see it go.. some want two GM tables.. my personal opinion would be to keep all tables as they are but start with a 1000 stack start on GM as with TT... I think this would bring back the popularity of the GM table for the same reason as outlined above for TT....

could go on in more depth but just wanting to put a few idea's/suggestions forward....
would just like to end my diatribe by saying, even with the recent troubles, aggravation etc this is still the best free site I have found, so thanks emil...

oh yeah, can I have free TFPR T-shirts with "England Patriots, the sensible team, pinch your chips and make you scream" on the back.. only need 12.. thanks in advance..

dev

God forbid

what is it that you are objecting to bat? the one mod on the committee along with the captains?
heres my thought, the seemingly endless mod bashing needs to stop. these people do this for free, they take all this crap thrown at them lately, for free. what a fun job that is, how many people would actually sign up to be a mod, every six months, to have their character and their every little move, commented on over and over again, about how lousy they are, and how they all need to leave, i certainly wouldnt volunteer to be thrown to the wolves over and over again, for any little decision that a member didnt like, and no matter what, someone will not like a decision that is made. and im not necessarily defending all the mods, im just saying, its not an easy job, and not one i would like, specially with all the abuse they have taken lately, cant imagine anyone in their right mind signing up for that

yep


that's why they should not cumulate caps.
The more caps they cumulate, the more conflict of interest they are exposed to,
which results in contested / contestable / suspicious decisions.
Cap cumulation indeed undermine their work.


The abuse has been considerably the other way around lately...

I agree with bat and The deville, but a captscommittee would work best for league without mods...so if a mod is capt,
1 the mod gives captainship to his/her vice
2 lets the Vice captain be at captains committee

If things must be decided like do we play omaha in league next year or do we make 1 big league all capt can speak with their teams and vote so that capt has 1 vote for his team...



I als would like to see DM gone in favor of a extra TT or GM both with 1000 startingchips and please can we lose the fee?

Since I am captain of my team and a mod, I can only guess you are referring to me, Ron. Well, my vice is also a mod.

I see no relation between the two or problem with being a mod and captain of league team.

Well I am not refering to you there are more....

And there is a relation between be a mod and be a mod at the captscommittee if that would get here confict of interests...

I dont mind any Mod be a captain but then the mod shouldnt be in the captainscommittee so if your vice is a mod too well then you would need another teammember for this committee.

Only one more -- boozy.

But as I said, I don't see what one has to do with the other. As you aware, the mods did not vote on the puffs issue as some claimed, that was incorrect, so I don't see a problem. My thoughts.

Well i wasnt aspecialy attacking you now...And still there will be issues in future that might give you a confict of interest.
And also I want to point out that I didnt say you were invaulved in the puffs thing, actualy you were taking it up for them.

edit
I found 1 reason by the way Night..
http://www.thefreepokerroom.com/forum/5_3065_47.html#msg163367

I was simply bringing up the puffs because that seems to be the only issue that has come up in the past re: mods and league. However, since the mods did not vote on this issue (as some assumed), I am back to not understanding the problem with being a team captain and a mod.

They are two separate things. But we'll simply have to agree to disagree, Ron.


ETA: Your link: Yes, people tend to respond that way sometimes when they are attacked or falsely accused. Finn was one member in a committee of 4. He was not, nor is, a lone voice in league rulings.

Yes Night :-)

This isnt a thread to start mud slinging and apportioning blame again.. read what emil has said.. its a thread for suggestions to improve the site.. carry on like this ron and it will end up just another thread full of rubbish..

Lets just keep this thread for what it was intended.... Emil already knows about your concerns and complaints,so why keep battering him with them? it only serves to deflect from the suggestions being made to improve the site.If emil or the league committee takes any of the suggestions made onboard then have a full discussion.. but until then lets keep this thread apart from the rubbish thats been going on lately..

I for one am getting sick of it and am almost at the point of giving up completely.. maybe thats what you want?, the sensible site members to get sick of all this and walk away leaving you all bickering happily between yourselves?

I may not agree with some decisions made, but on the other hand I dont agree with your idea of mob rule either...

keep it to suggestions, not trying to turn it into another blame factory.. you may not see it as that but from what I am reading thats exactly what it looks like...

Just could not help noticing puffs name mentioned here, and could not refrain myself asking a question (although, i did post that i will only check back after a couple of weeks, which is about a week away).

My question : Is my appeal being looked into ?

My statement : Am asking this question as there has been total silent regarding this appeal.

Thank you and hope to hear news soon.

Roy

Well I didnt do that Deville, i answerd a question of night, i wasnt attacking her, she was adressing me so I did answer her question, so i suggetrs read this again please Deville??
I did answer to emils question and made suggestions...wasnt attacking..So if you name me name night too then, because I gave a answer to her questions...

only on surface.
League is a political arena.
A political arena is great place to create personal conflicts and nemesis.
Mod power is a great tool to abuse in order to eliminate nemesis and exert hubris.