Although my preference is for omaha hi only thought would just post in the hope that maybe some people that are playing the Omaha hi/lo pot limit table might read and realise that it isnt bingo and is a POST FLOP game..... That doesnt mean no raises preflop, it just means that even premium hands only ever get raised maximum 3-5 times big blind usually in pot limit omaha, not allin as in NL, which happens frequently...
Fully realise that people think turbo is bingo (although thats not why turbo tables are here at all) and on a free site will probably never be played as it should be in omaha or holdem, but pot limit omaha most certainly isnt.... Its a very strategic game that is great fun to learn and play with people who wish to play it properly...
Am almost certainly talking to people who cant/wont, listen, read or care, but as it spoils the game for quite a few who love the game think have to try....

Anyone who wants to can go to any of these links and maybe learn a few tips for omaha hi/lo pot limit ..

http://www.playwinningpoker.com/omaha/pot-limit/plo8/

http://omahahilostrategy.blogspot.com/

http://www.onlinepoker.net/Poker-Strategy/Omaha-Pre-Flop-Poker-Strategy.php

nice post thankyou, i think if people want to play bingo then the turbo omaha table should be used as there are new members joining the league who havnt got the hang of the game and this is the only table where this is possible.

Another very good reason for the pot limit omaha table to be played properly.. Would aim that especially at the more experienced players onsite who come to that table when no one on turbo and turn it into a bingo table... very unfair on new players who know little about omaha and joining league teams so looking to learn....

I have posted this a few times before Paul, but it is still as valid as ever.

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As far as I may offer my two cents regarding the bingo play...here is the outline of the plan to counter it. It goes as this.....

- There is nothing we can do to stop that, it leads to the following remedy;
- Play bingo until you get lucky and you reached about 10k (objective A);
- Once the objective A is achieved, play more conservative, but still risky until you reach about 50k (objective B);
- By the time objective B is reached, play proper and rip those fools of off their reset chips to your hearts content and enjoy.

Any other approach is doomed to fail for multiple reasons..not least because caution is futile against 9 bingo combinations. If in executing the plan you fail in the process while going for B...start again.

We have spoken about this matter now quite a long time -- and I believe as long as the chips are free there is no silver lining nor silver bullet to stop this. So only thing left is to use military tactics -- and adapt to your enemy's manners. I have myself as well stopped most play at the turbo's, unless I am waiting the start of a tourney. If during the wait I hit lucky streak I stay at the turbo -- and collect 325k as I was able to do a few months back at omaha 1. ;-))

FF

Much spoken. not much tried.

In particular, we did not test a set of ring tables
with multiple scales of min-buyins/blinds
to see if it reduced bingo play.

The reason I think it could work is contained in your own argument:
Once objective A is achieved (large stack reached),
you play more conservative.

Therefore, you have a large stack from the start,
the bingo might stop...

Plus, it already works for tourney tables.
There's less bingo on tourneys because people go to the tourney tables
whose buyins match their bankroll.

The DM people is rarely or never found on the 3K table.
Because playing 3K is boring to them.
If they went to 3K, they would bingo out of boredom.

It's the same for ring tables:
Seasoned players with large bankroll are bored to play with 1K,
and bingo to try to play with large stack.
So, just give them the large stack from the start...

... [wrong thread lol] ...

Omaha hi/lo is best played fixed limit.

I agree with what Bat says above, however with one small amendment, as he says no-one (or very few) players play bingo on the tournament tables due to the high buy in, why not raise the buy in on all tables (except table 1 and the turbo tables). I think this would curb bingo at non turbo tables and allow people with sufficient funds to play in a peaceful (non bingo) environment, the newbies could also 'cut their teeth' on the turbo tables or Table 1.

So in essence I'd suggest raising the buy in on tables 2, 3 and Pot Limit to maybe 2000 or 2500.

This leaves Table 1 for the newbies and the rest to the 'two fat ladies' crowd

Well of course omaha isnt bingo, the only game that is bingo is bingo itself. It all depends on the players, their experience, and how they feel at the moment. These factors can cause it to turn it into a different game. I have come to find that many players lack understanding of the overall objective of the game, unfourntely Bingo play is on all sites even where the pros play, and even the wsop where you have to play 10k to get in. I have given up on the hope that their will be no more bingo on this site, its really impossible. There are still ways to control it some what like high buy in tables such as dm. When dm came, it took a long time for some bingo to take hold.

Far from the mark, in my opinion.
The ring tables buyins should compete with the tourney buyins in magnitude...

for example, the 7 * 1k-buyin NLHE tables could become:

3 * 1k-buyin NLHE tables (10/20),
2 * 5k-buyin NLHE tables (50/100),
2 * 25k-buyin NLHE tables (250/500).

PLHE and PLO8 could be 10k...
NLO8 is an aberration and should become hi-only
Stud is wasted, and should turn back Omaha or Holdem.

min-buyin should prolly be the same as max-buyin
in order to avoid min-buyin bingo strategy.

I fully agree with the desire to have less crazy high bets pre flop in Omaha.

What thos who agree can do is to bet minimal increases if they want to see a flop inexpensive.
This also works against the bullying of some who hold the big stack (of course I do that too when it is my turn ;-)
I do not understand why so few people participate in small betting to fill up the 3 pre-flop bets. It is allowed so when it is in your advantage, why not do it?

JayJayC

Well i believe in what G s said abt it.. raisin buyins except for first three table...

well also like to bring to u thay i do seen most experienced ones with huge balance playin bingo out of nowhere... probably more out of fun and enjoyment

and it seems thay have last laugh as objective A is achieved sooner or later wid spendin a few penny s here or there..

Just off the omaha pot limit table, afraid yous are peeing in the wind, bingo is alive and spreading, nowhere is free from it, do we really think higher stakes or buy ins will curb it. tried with the 10k, then 25k, now 50k its still there and getting worse. I remarked whilst playing the diamond mine that the table should be sponsored by viagra judging by the amount raises there is there,

Its purely and simply about respect, respect for fellow players and respect for the game, sadly a fair few of our fellow players are lacking in both counts.

I dont remember having seen an early all-in called by 9 players at these tables,
all showing crap of various degree.

batankyu2:
I dont remember having seen an early all-in called by 9 players at these tables,
all showing crap of various degree.

Obviously differing interpretations of bingo play. Big bets with crap prevelent on all tables, be it 9, 2 or 1 players

lol, n1