a question bat,as so many of us look daily at the stats for tables and the leader board ,and you like many of us a not overly happy that it has been tainted by the black jack bingo ,rather than ruin the pleasure of many in looking at their performance on the top 2000 is it possible that those in the top 50 which have and still are chip building from 5k and 6k black jack are highlighted in a different colour so that although they still have these chips in their bank balances all can see that in reality they are chip grabbing gits and not playing the free poker site in the manner it was intended .just an idea as it seems up to 15 of the top 50 players are actively still chip building in this way.
it seems a shame to lose the stats for the majority and your hard work just because of these few .
and for those wondering who the hell superbent is i play the tables as makemmaniac ,redbacar,jimslipstick and you will know how much i play .
thanks bat for stats ive loved them

I love batstats

cannot do that lol

Can we just ignore the leaderboard and focus on Tourney Stats? Not on leaderboard myself and only recently made 1,000,000 playing tourneys. I prefer to work on my % of touneys played to tourneys i cash in, it is helping with my patience...lol

Although...I had 2 really bad beats yesterday and threw a tantrum a 3yo would be proud of.....hmmmm more work needed on anger management

Hi Bat:

I noticed that several tournaments were shown for Feb 13th on your "Tourneys spied today" display as "uncomplete". The winner of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd awards were shown, but not the other players. I am guessing the missing information was due to issues with the spy. I am curious about why you did noy include these award winners in the individual February results for the various tournament types: TH3k, etc.

Regardst
Buzz

Because the spy knows only the winners, not other opponents.
(the spy reconnected to the table in the middle of a game)
Hence, this tourney would be a freeroll for these unknown eliminated players:
it would not change their BUYIN and ROI stats for example.

Also the tourney header sent by server at beginning of registration window
has not been read: so buyins, fees, prize structures are unknown and are assumed
with traditionnal settings. (this has been a problem when Emil changed the GM fee
from 1000 to 500 or changed the Omaha buyin...)
The tourney #Id is also unknown.

Thanks Bat.

Player with ID 675080 sits with the screenname "Nith Haiat" containing a space in the middle and making the spy crash each time he's seen by the spy.

Strange things caught on table 5...
The server sent two strange lines "@{4" and "@[945;4" to the clients.

"@[" is normally used in stud tables to notify that antes were refunded:
"@[945;4" means that seat 4 is refunded his ante with new stack being restored to 945 chips.

So I guess it is used in holdem and omaha as well to nottify a blind refunded,
but I never saw this at a holdem or omaha table,
and i wonder under what circumstances a blind can be refunded...

The only case I can think of is two players in heads-up posting blinds,
and a moderator kicks one of them out of the table, maybe...

"@{4" is completely new for me, but I guess it is related to seat 4 as well...

Yes, I once saw a bigfoot at the table 7....looked so lost, too.

After a little experiment on the tables,
We now know that no message is sent to observers when a player is banned.
Also his blind is not refunded.
So the hypothesis stated above is excluded.

test

my thread is not a doormat for your St Valentine picture tests, GP.

here is one tourney where 0.02 chips are coming from nowhere:
Winners stands with 4000.02 chips.

TO12k 48235
END 'Sun Feb 14 19:24:54 2010'
START 'Sun Feb 14 18:36:38 2010'
BUYIN 12000.00 FEE 200.00 STACK 800.00
STRUCTURE 50.00 30.00 20.00
RANK 1 NAME tommo2205 PRIZE 30000
RANK 2 NAME dave99 PRIZE 18000
RANK 3 NAME jackhighjo PRIZE 12000
OPPONENTS 5
RANK 1 HAND 32742680 LEVEL 5.6 END 4000.02 START 3070.98 SEAT 2 NAME tommo2205
RANK 2 HAND 32742680 LEVEL 5.6 END 0000.00 START 0929.04 SEAT 7 NAME dave99
RANK 3 HAND 32741090 LEVEL 3.5 END 0000.00 START 0167.67 SEAT 1 NAME jackhighjo
RANK 4 HAND 32741001 LEVEL 3.4 END 0000.00 START 0181.57 SEAT 3 NAME djohnson2008
RANK 5 HAND 32739814 LEVEL 2.5 END 0000.00 START 0371.00 SEAT 6 NAME GTH50000

here are the stacks of the 10 seats at the beginning of each hand and the total of chips on the table.
We see that pots at hands 1.6 and 4.10 award an extra cent...

1.1 0800.00 0800.00 0800.00 0000.00 0000.00 0800.00 0800.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.00
1.2 0770.00 0830.00 0830.00 0000.00 0000.00 0800.00 0770.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.00
1.3 0690.00 1327.50 0442.50 0000.00 0000.00 0800.00 0740.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.00
1.4 0690.00 1297.50 0602.50 0000.00 0000.00 0735.00 0675.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.00
1.5 0690.00 1389.00 0557.50 0000.00 0000.00 0597.00 0766.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.00
1.6 0660.00 1309.00 0827.50 0000.00 0000.00 0517.00 0686.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.00
1.7 0606.25 1279.00 0869.38 0000.00 0000.00 0517.00 0728.38 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
1.8 0591.25 1301.50 0891.88 0000.00 0000.00 0502.00 0713.38 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
1.9 0626.25 1336.50 0851.88 0000.00 0000.00 0487.00 0698.38 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
1.T 0626.25 1486.50 0731.88 0000.00 0000.00 0457.00 0698.38 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
2.1 0611.25 1456.50 0806.88 0000.00 0000.00 0442.00 0683.38 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
2.2 0521.25 1546.50 0716.88 0000.00 0000.00 0442.00 0773.38 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
2.3 0431.25 1104.50 0601.94 0000.00 0000.00 0464.50 1397.82 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
2.4 0461.25 1134.50 0541.94 0000.00 0000.00 0464.50 1397.82 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
2.5 0431.25 1318.00 0511.94 0000.00 0000.00 0371.00 1367.82 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
2.6 0982.25 1258.00 0451.94 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1307.82 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
2.7 0952.25 1228.00 0526.94 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1292.82 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
2.8 1362.25 1038.00 0336.94 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1262.82 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
2.9 1392.25 1068.00 0306.94 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1232.82 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
2.T 1085.31 0968.00 0743.88 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1202.82 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
3.1 1055.31 0968.00 0418.88 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1557.82 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
3.2 0087.31 1986.00 0368.88 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1557.82 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
3.3 0349.24 1898.69 0281.57 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1470.51 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
3.4 0349.24 1898.69 0181.57 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1570.51 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
3.5 0167.67 2286.83 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1545.51 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
3.6 0000.00 2617.75 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1382.26 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
3.7 0000.00 2717.75 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1282.26 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
3.8 0000.00 2817.75 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1182.26 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
3.9 0000.00 2817.75 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1182.26 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
3.T 0000.00 2767.75 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1232.26 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
4.1 0000.00 2867.75 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1132.26 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
4.2 0000.00 2967.75 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1032.26 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
4.3 0000.00 3067.75 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0932.26 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
4.4 0000.00 2967.75 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1032.26 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
4.5 0000.00 2867.75 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1132.26 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
4.6 0000.00 2867.75 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1132.26 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
4.7 0000.00 2967.75 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1032.26 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
4.8 0000.00 3067.75 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0932.26 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
4.9 0000.00 2767.75 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1232.26 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
4.T 0000.00 1535.49 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 2464.52 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.01
5.1 0000.00 1535.49 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 2464.53 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.02
5.2 0000.00 1535.49 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 2464.53 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.02
5.3 0000.00 1535.49 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 2464.53 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.02
5.4 0000.00 3070.98 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0929.04 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.02
5.5 0000.00 3070.98 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0929.04 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.02
5.6 0000.00 3070.98 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0929.04 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL 4000.02

My thoughts exactly :)

Normally when a chip of lowest denomination cannot be split in a pot,
it should be awarded to the player handicapped by the earliest position with respect to button.

Obviously, here, the 0.01$ chip is splitted anyway, making 0.005$ chips for two players,
which when rounded later to lowest denomination makes 0.01$ for both players,
hence creating the 0.01$ extra chip on the table.

why when the site goes down and im in the middle of a tournament i lose all my chips?

should I know ?

Observe this Diamond Mine log where 100 chips are stolen in pots of hand 3.9,
while nobody is even eliminated on this hand (no risk of sitout).

10-handed, there are 8*100= 8000 chips at the beginning of the tourney.
At the end of the tourney, the winner ends hand 7.10 with 7900 chips.

TH50k 48257
END 'Sun Feb 14 20:33:59 2010'
START 'Sun Feb 14 19:23:13 2010'
BUYIN 50000.00 FEE 1000.00 STACK 800.00
STRUCTURE 50.00 30.00 20.00
RANK 1 NAME BrownTrout PRIZE 250000
RANK 2 NAME TheDeville PRIZE 150000
RANK 3 NAME portocana PRIZE 100000

OPPONENTS 10
RANK 1 HAND 32749755 LEVEL 7.T END 7900.00 START 6007.50 SEAT 7 NAME BrownTrout
RANK 2 HAND 32749755 LEVEL 7.T END 0000.00 START 1892.50 SEAT 2 NAME TheDeville
RANK 3 HAND 32749418 LEVEL 7.3 END 0000.00 START 0206.00 SEAT T NAME portocana
RANK 4 HAND 32749130 LEVEL 6.9 END 0000.00 START 0469.25 SEAT 6 NAME GTH50000
RANK 5 HAND 32748466 LEVEL 5.9 END 0000.00 START 0413.00 SEAT 5 NAME GreatestPlayer
RANK 6 HAND 32747854 LEVEL 5.2 END 0000.00 START 0234.25 SEAT 4 NAME nicole31
RANK 7 HAND 32747180 LEVEL 4.5 END 0000.00 START 0315.00 SEAT 1 NAME batankyu2
RANK 8 HAND 32746091 LEVEL 3.5 END 0000.00 START 0425.75 SEAT 8 NAME kaley
RANK 9 HAND 32745021 LEVEL 2.7 END 0000.00 START 0433.75 SEAT 3 NAME smoggy25
RANK T HAND 32743867 LEVEL 1.9 END 0000.00 START 0084.00 SEAT 9 NAME macdaddy2234

Here are the hand levels followed by the 10 stacks at the start of these hands
and the total chips at the table:

1.1 0800.00 0800.00 0800.00 0800.00 0800.00 0800.00 0800.00 0800.00 0800.00 0800.00 TOTAL: 8000.00
1.2 0800.00 0800.00 0800.00 0795.00 0715.00 0800.00 1656.00 0715.00 0119.00 0800.00 TOTAL: 8000.00
1.3 0800.00 0800.00 0785.00 1005.00 0595.00 0725.00 1656.00 0715.00 0119.00 0800.00 TOTAL: 8000.00
1.4 0800.00 0785.00 0770.00 0990.00 0580.00 0710.00 1860.25 0600.75 0104.00 0800.00 TOTAL: 8000.00
1.5 0800.00 0785.00 0770.00 0960.00 0645.00 0710.00 1855.25 0570.75 0104.00 0800.00 TOTAL: 8000.00
1.6 0800.00 0785.00 0770.00 0980.00 0645.00 0710.00 1855.25 0565.75 0089.00 0800.00 TOTAL: 8000.00
1.7 0800.00 1078.75 0770.00 0980.00 0541.50 0710.00 1685.00 0565.75 0084.00 0785.00 TOTAL: 8000.00
1.8 0850.00 1078.75 0755.00 0965.00 0541.50 0710.00 1685.00 0550.75 0084.00 0780.00 TOTAL: 8000.00
1.9 0805.00 1063.75 0755.00 0860.00 0481.50 1040.00 1685.00 0445.75 0084.00 0780.00 TOTAL: 8000.00
1.T 0805.00 0964.75 0740.00 0860.00 0466.50 1040.00 1898.00 0445.75 0000.00 0780.00 TOTAL: 8000.00
2.1 0805.00 0964.75 0673.75 0845.00 0466.50 1025.00 1994.25 0445.75 0000.00 0780.00 TOTAL: 8000.00
2.2 0805.00 0964.75 0673.75 0830.00 0481.50 1025.00 1994.25 0445.75 0000.00 0780.00 TOTAL: 8000.00
2.3 0805.00 0964.75 0673.75 0830.00 0466.50 0995.00 1934.25 0550.75 0000.00 0780.00 TOTAL: 8000.00
2.4 0745.00 0964.75 0673.75 0740.00 0466.50 0905.00 1904.25 0820.75 0000.00 0780.00 TOTAL: 8000.00
2.5 0745.00 1433.75 0673.75 0740.00 0466.50 0845.00 1615.25 0760.75 0000.00 0720.00 TOTAL: 8000.00
2.6 0745.00 1163.75 0433.75 0740.00 1246.50 0845.00 1615.25 0520.75 0000.00 0690.00 TOTAL: 8000.00
2.7 0715.00 1163.75 0433.75 0590.00 1246.50 0845.00 1555.25 0775.75 0000.00 0675.00 TOTAL: 8000.00
2.8 0700.00 1133.75 0000.00 0590.00 1186.50 0845.00 1495.25 0715.75 0000.00 1333.75 TOTAL: 8000.00
2.9 0670.00 1118.75 0000.00 0560.00 1291.50 0845.00 1495.25 0685.75 0000.00 1333.75 TOTAL: 8000.00
2.T 0640.00 1058.75 0000.00 0800.00 1261.50 0785.00 1495.25 0625.75 0000.00 1333.75 TOTAL: 8000.00
3.1 0640.00 1058.75 0000.00 0770.00 1231.50 0755.00 1585.25 0625.75 0000.00 1333.75 TOTAL: 8000.00
3.2 0640.00 1058.75 0000.00 0720.00 1181.50 0955.00 1535.25 0575.75 0000.00 1333.75 TOTAL: 8000.00
3.3 0590.00 1008.75 0000.00 0720.00 1181.50 1130.00 1510.25 0525.75 0000.00 1333.75 TOTAL: 8000.00
3.4 0540.00 0658.75 0000.00 0720.00 1181.50 1130.00 1510.25 0425.75 0000.00 1833.75 TOTAL: 8000.00
3.5 0490.00 0658.75 0000.00 0720.00 0981.50 1480.00 1510.25 0425.75 0000.00 1733.75 TOTAL: 8000.00
3.6 0465.00 1209.50 0000.00 0720.00 0881.50 1480.00 1510.25 0000.00 0000.00 1733.75 TOTAL: 8000.00
3.7 0465.00 1259.50 0000.00 0670.00 0881.50 1480.00 1510.25 0000.00 0000.00 1733.75 TOTAL: 8000.00
3.8 0465.00 1259.50 0000.00 0720.00 0831.50 1480.00 1510.25 0000.00 0000.00 1733.75 TOTAL: 8000.00
3.9 0465.00 1259.50 0000.00 0970.00 0781.50 1430.00 1510.25 0000.00 0000.00 1583.75 TOTAL: 8000.00
3.T 0465.00 1059.50 0000.00 0970.00 0856.50 1505.00 1460.25 0000.00 0000.00 1583.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
4.1 0465.00 1059.50 0000.00 0820.00 0706.50 1955.00 1360.25 0000.00 0000.00 1533.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
4.2 0365.00 1059.50 0000.00 0720.00 0706.50 1955.00 1260.25 0000.00 0000.00 1833.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
4.3 0315.00 1109.50 0000.00 0720.00 0706.50 1955.00 1260.25 0000.00 0000.00 1833.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
4.4 0315.00 1009.50 0000.00 0620.00 0706.50 1955.00 1460.25 0000.00 0000.00 1833.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
4.5 0315.00 0909.50 0000.00 0820.00 0606.50 1955.00 1460.25 0000.00 0000.00 1833.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
4.6 0000.00 0909.50 0000.00 1285.00 0556.50 1855.00 1460.25 0000.00 0000.00 1833.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
4.7 0000.00 0909.50 0000.00 0885.00 0556.50 1755.00 1360.25 0000.00 0000.00 2433.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
4.8 0000.00 1919.00 0000.00 0885.00 0556.50 1755.00 0450.75 0000.00 0000.00 2333.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
4.9 0000.00 2219.00 0000.00 0885.00 0556.50 1755.00 0450.75 0000.00 0000.00 2033.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
4.T 0000.00 2119.00 0000.00 0985.00 0556.50 1755.00 0450.75 0000.00 0000.00 2033.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
5.1 0000.00 2619.00 0000.00 0685.00 0356.50 1755.00 0450.75 0000.00 0000.00 2033.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
5.2 0000.00 2619.00 0000.00 0234.25 0256.50 1555.00 1201.50 0000.00 0000.00 2033.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
5.3 0000.00 2619.00 0000.00 0000.00 0256.50 1455.00 1535.75 0000.00 0000.00 2033.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
5.4 0000.00 2619.00 0000.00 0000.00 0256.50 1455.00 1735.75 0000.00 0000.00 1833.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
5.5 0000.00 2719.00 0000.00 0000.00 0256.50 1455.00 1735.75 0000.00 0000.00 1733.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
5.6 0000.00 2462.50 0000.00 0000.00 0513.00 1455.00 1735.75 0000.00 0000.00 1733.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
5.7 0000.00 2462.50 0000.00 0000.00 0413.00 1555.00 1735.75 0000.00 0000.00 1733.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
5.8 0000.00 2462.50 0000.00 0000.00 0413.00 1355.00 1935.75 0000.00 0000.00 1733.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
5.9 0000.00 2462.50 0000.00 0000.00 0413.00 1355.00 1735.75 0000.00 0000.00 1933.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
5.T 0000.00 2262.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1355.00 1735.75 0000.00 0000.00 2546.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
6.1 0000.00 2162.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1455.00 1735.75 0000.00 0000.00 2546.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
6.2 0000.00 2162.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1305.00 1885.75 0000.00 0000.00 2546.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
6.3 0000.00 2612.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1305.00 1735.75 0000.00 0000.00 2246.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
6.4 0000.00 3362.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1305.00 1135.75 0000.00 0000.00 2096.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
6.5 0000.00 3212.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1455.00 1135.75 0000.00 0000.00 2096.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
6.6 0000.00 2912.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1155.00 0835.75 0000.00 0000.00 2996.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
6.7 0000.00 2912.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1155.00 0685.75 0000.00 0000.00 3146.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
6.8 0000.00 3062.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1155.00 0685.75 0000.00 0000.00 2996.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
6.9 0000.00 2912.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0469.25 1521.50 0000.00 0000.00 2996.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
6.T 0000.00 2912.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 1990.75 0000.00 0000.00 2996.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
7.1 0000.00 2912.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 2290.75 0000.00 0000.00 2696.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
7.2 0000.00 3112.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 2290.75 0000.00 0000.00 2496.75 TOTAL: 7900.00
7.3 0000.00 2912.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 4781.50 0000.00 0000.00 0206.00 TOTAL: 7900.00
7.4 0000.00 2912.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 4987.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL: 7900.00
7.5 0000.00 3112.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 4787.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL: 7900.00
7.6 0000.00 2912.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 4987.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL: 7900.00
7.7 0000.00 0946.25 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 6953.75 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL: 7900.00
7.8 0000.00 0746.25 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 7153.75 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL: 7900.00
7.9 0000.00 1492.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 6407.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL: 7900.00
7.T 0000.00 1892.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 6007.50 0000.00 0000.00 0000.00 TOTAL: 7900.00

Note that sometimes when there a several pots,
the flash client fails to display the last pot at the centre of the table.

But it is awarded anyway (chips seems to come from an invisible pot at the centre o the table toward player's stack).

Here, we clearly have a pot (or part of a pot) that fails to be awarded to a player.

Tonite, we did a little experiment on scheduled holdem table:
4 players all siting-out and letting the system play until general elimination.

At end of level 2.1, all players stand and the situation is as follows, where:
- END is the player's stack at the end of the hand;
- START is the player's stack at the start of the hand;
- POS is the position of the seat with respect to button;

RANK 1 HAND 32766401 LEVEL 2.1 END 800.00 START 800.00 POS 10 SEAT 3 NAME Pigster
RANK 2 HAND 32766401 LEVEL 2.1 END 790.00 START 805.00 POS 01 SEAT 4 NAME batankyu2
RANK 3 HAND 32766401 LEVEL 2.1 END 815.00 START 800.00 POS 06 SEAT 9 NAME MOD_Tiandra
RANK 4 HAND 32766401 LEVEL 2.1 END 795.00 START 795.00 POS 08 SEAT 1 NAME skyline888888

SITOUTS: batankyu2, skyline888888, MOD_Tiandra
(Pigster not reported sitout by the system...)

So it seems that the non-sitout player wins even though he's not the highest stack neither at the end nor at the start of the hand,
(since he's not eliminated, he could continue the tourney in presence of other players)
and that the sitouts are ranked according to their stack at the START of the hand.

Unfortunately, we were not enough at the table to have some equal starting stacks
in order to check if position wrt button plays a role to break ties.

Notes to self:

If P is a tourney player let:
* NAME(P) be his name
* HAND(P) be the hand serial number at the end of which he stands
* START(P) be his stack at the beginning of this hand
* END(P) be his stack at the end of this hand
* POS(P) be the position of his seat clockwise from button (position 10=button)
* SITOUT(P) be True or False whether P is eliminated for sitting-out too many hands
* BUST(P) be True or False whether P stands because he busted

Two remarks on BUST(P) and SITOUT(P):
1) There's no way to determine SITOUT(P) other than looking at the hand log message
"NAME(P)eliminated for sitting out too many hands ."
One could think that if a player stands while not busted, then SITOUT(P) is True,
but this is forgetting that the tourney winner stands with non-stack too.

2) BUST(P) cannot be tested by END(P) == 0.
Indeed, juliafairy was seen busted while still having 0.01$ in chips.
So BUST(P) should be tested by END(P) <= EPSILON, for some (unknown yet) small EPSILON.
I would not be surprised that some players manage to stand with a slightly negative stack too.

Also:

3) It is possible that a sitout player busts just on his folding count limit by paying a blind.
We suppose in case that he's eliminated on busting instead of sitting-out.

4) The order of standing at the end of a same hand is undefined
and in particular unrelated to ranking.
So we cannot rely on the order of standing to build the ranking.

In order to sort a list a tourney players who all stood,
we need to be able compare two players X and Y, (X < Y meaning X is out before Y).
My guess for the ranking used by the system is currently
the following tests made in this order:



if HAND(X) < HAND(Y) then we have X < Y, otherwise...
if HAND(Y) < HAND(X) then we have Y < X, otherwise...
(latest hand wins, the easy case)

(now hands are the same, the head-ache begins...)
if BUST(X) AND NOT BUST(Y) then we have X < Y, otherwise...
if BUST(Y) AND NOT BUST(X) then we have Y < X, otherwise...
(non-busted player wins, regardeless of sitout status)

if NOT BUST(X) AND NOT BUST(Y) then...
*** if SITOUT(X) AND NOT SITOUT(Y) then we have X < Y, otherwise...
*** if SITOUT(Y) AND NOT SITOUT(X) then we have Y < X, otherwise...
(non-sitout player wins)

(we then swith to the normal comparison: starting stack and position...)

if START(X) < START(Y) then we have X < Y, otherwise...
if START(Y) < START(X) then we have Y < X, otherwise...
(largest starting stack wins)

if POS(X) > POS(Y) then we have X < Y, otherwise...
POS(Y) > POS(X) necessarily, and we have have Y < X
(eariest position wins)



This is equivalent to the following:
* P is O-qualified if NOT SITOUT(P) AND NOT BUST(P)
* P is B-qualified if NOT SITOUT(P) AND BUST(P)
* P is S-qualified if SITOUT(P) AND NOT BUST(P)
* P is A-qualified if SITOUT(P) AND BUST(P)

The matrix below gives the winner between X and Y
if X and Y stand in same hand, according to their qualifiers:

A S B O X/Y
[Y Y Y U] O
[N X N X] B
[Y N Y X] S
[N X N X] A

where:
* U is undefined, since two O-qualified players mean both are winners.
* N is the normal comparison, first comparing starting stack, and then position)

that is, if (QxQy) is the couple of qualifier corresponding to (XY), we have:
(OO)= U
(BB)=(SS)=(AA)=(BA)=(AB)= N
(BO)=(BS)=(AO)=(AS)= Y
(OB)=(SB)= (OA)= (SA)= X

and you do this for free, all i can say is THANKS

Just wanted to give you heads up, your evil twin brother has been released from prison lol.

lol, it was an experiment made with finn to see if a message is sent by server when a player is kicked and also to see if the blind is refunded when the kick occurs on a blind.

Both spys (the running one and the tested one) reported an big abnormality for 3k Tourney #49025
This tourney was counted 6 opponents by the spys,
which is confirmed by the fact that the winner finnishes with 6*8000= 4800 chips.
Yet the 3nd got a 3000$ prize and the 2nd a 4500$ prize,
which means the first automatically got 7500$ with the 50%/30%/20% prize structure.

This adds-up to 15000$ prizes, the equivalent of a 5-handed 3k-tourney,
not a 6-handed one. I conclude that the table stole a buyin from the prize pool.

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TH3k 49025 COMPLETE
END 'Wed Feb 17 06:36:17 2010'
START 'Wed Feb 17 05:46:45 2010'
BUYIN 3000.00 FEE 0.00 STACK 800.00
STRUCTURE 50.00 30.00 20.00

RANK 01 PRIZE 007500 NAME veezedd
RANK 02 PRIZE 004500 NAME Hawai501
RANK 03 PRIZE 003000 NAME Galop

OPPONENTS 06

RANK 01 HAND 33099691 LEVEL 5.07 END 4800.00 START 2790.00 POS 10 SEAT 08 NORMAL NAME veezedd
RANK 02 HAND 33099691 LEVEL 5.07 END 0000.00 START 2010.00 POS 08 SEAT 06 NORMAL NAME Hawai501
RANK 03 HAND 33099516 LEVEL 5.04 END 0000.00 START 0495.00 POS 03 SEAT 09 NORMAL NAME Galop
RANK 04 HAND 33098650 LEVEL 4.03 END 0000.00 START 0540.00 POS 03 SEAT 02 NORMAL NAME chainsawman
RANK 05 HAND 33097308 LEVEL 2.10 END 0000.00 START 0450.00 POS 09 SEAT 07 NORMAL NAME fatro
RANK 06 HAND 33096220 LEVEL 1.10 END 0000.00 START 0325.00 POS 06 SEAT 05 NORMAL NAME carlosneu

PRIZE-LOG
Galop finishes in 3rd place [3000]
Hawai501 finishes in 2nd place [4500]

For the bat-stats, I've manually changed the prizes of the tourney above
to the correct one (18000$=9000$+5400$+3600$).

Bat I just saw it happen in dm, 400 chips went missing

400 ? that's a lot.
and no sitout ?

wait crap you right thinkthere was, sorry